Going from the hunted to hunters?
-
Crimson09Crazy
Going from the hunted to hunters?
Big East is reportedly going after Memphis and UCF. I like the moves, but it has its positives and negatives.
Positives.
You get Memphis who is a top 10 Basketball power, not that the Best Basketball conference needs any more firepower....Doesn't hurt to add them.
You add UCF, not noted for anything in particular...They play in the right State for success. By going to a BCS league It will only bolster football recruiting.
USF gets a partner and Florida.
Big East adds Orlando and Memphis markets. UCF is the 3rd biggest school in America. Two good markets to have and lots more fans watching Big East athletics.
Louisville, Cincinnati, and USF have all reaped the benefits of playing in a BCS league. Louisville has one BCS appearance and Cincy has two. That success surely would not have come in C-USA. I think UCF and Memphis would both benefit from playing in this league football wise.
Negatives would be.
18 Basketball schools. Way too many. The Bball schedule and conference tournament are already crowded as it is. A split with non Football schools is starting to become more and more likely. It would be a shame to lose the Georgetown and Villanova rivalries.
Memphis and UCF aren't exactly top notch academic universities. But as we all know its about athletics so its really not a problem.
Nothing wrong with adding these teams, It may take a few years for these teams to get rolling but once they do it can only strengthen the league. The Big East is fine as it is....I see 3 10 win teams(Pitt,WVU,and Cincy) and 5-6 quality teams in the 2010 edition of the Big East. We survived expansion, and we're only going to be stronger.
Positives.
You get Memphis who is a top 10 Basketball power, not that the Best Basketball conference needs any more firepower....Doesn't hurt to add them.
You add UCF, not noted for anything in particular...They play in the right State for success. By going to a BCS league It will only bolster football recruiting.
USF gets a partner and Florida.
Big East adds Orlando and Memphis markets. UCF is the 3rd biggest school in America. Two good markets to have and lots more fans watching Big East athletics.
Louisville, Cincinnati, and USF have all reaped the benefits of playing in a BCS league. Louisville has one BCS appearance and Cincy has two. That success surely would not have come in C-USA. I think UCF and Memphis would both benefit from playing in this league football wise.
Negatives would be.
18 Basketball schools. Way too many. The Bball schedule and conference tournament are already crowded as it is. A split with non Football schools is starting to become more and more likely. It would be a shame to lose the Georgetown and Villanova rivalries.
Memphis and UCF aren't exactly top notch academic universities. But as we all know its about athletics so its really not a problem.
Nothing wrong with adding these teams, It may take a few years for these teams to get rolling but once they do it can only strengthen the league. The Big East is fine as it is....I see 3 10 win teams(Pitt,WVU,and Cincy) and 5-6 quality teams in the 2010 edition of the Big East. We survived expansion, and we're only going to be stronger.
Last edited by Crimson09Crazy on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
The Ancient Enemy
- Official BleacherCoach
- Posts: 7549
- Joined: October 30th, 2004, 2:47 pm
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
UCF makes sense, but I really would have rather seen So Miss and ECU.
Last edited by The Ancient Enemy on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
"I can and will be hard anytime with or without my boyz!!!" - Hollywood
"Their jerseys make me want to run through the desert and tackle a terrorist." - nLions1
"Their jerseys make me want to run through the desert and tackle a terrorist." - nLions1
-
Crimson09Crazy
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
ECU is a sleeping giant, maybe with the split between football and non football the Big East will scoop up both.
UCF is a huge school, gives more influence in Florida, gives USF a rival and they just built a new stadium 2-3 years ago.
But ECU opens up more recruiting in the Carolinas. At some point I'd like to get them.
UCF is a huge school, gives more influence in Florida, gives USF a rival and they just built a new stadium 2-3 years ago.
But ECU opens up more recruiting in the Carolinas. At some point I'd like to get them.
Last edited by Crimson09Crazy on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
The Ancient Enemy
- Official BleacherCoach
- Posts: 7549
- Joined: October 30th, 2004, 2:47 pm
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
Where did you hear about Memphis and UCF, by the way?
Last edited by The Ancient Enemy on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
"I can and will be hard anytime with or without my boyz!!!" - Hollywood
"Their jerseys make me want to run through the desert and tackle a terrorist." - nLions1
"Their jerseys make me want to run through the desert and tackle a terrorist." - nLions1
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
Last edited by vman on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
I have to say thank you to me ..." for not being stupid enough to go to Penn State."
-
KirkHerbstreit
- Official BleacherCoach
- Posts: 1739
- Joined: October 7th, 2009, 8:45 pm
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
Wow this would be huge.
If the Big East pulls this off, they are hands down the best Conference in Football. I mean Memphis AND UCF. I mean I could see getting one, but both? WOW!!!!
Why stop at 2 tho? I'd Pigtail it with Slippery Rock, Mount Union, Shippensburg, and IUP!!!
That would be quite the Hunting trip!
If the Big East pulls this off, they are hands down the best Conference in Football. I mean Memphis AND UCF. I mean I could see getting one, but both? WOW!!!!
Why stop at 2 tho? I'd Pigtail it with Slippery Rock, Mount Union, Shippensburg, and IUP!!!
That would be quite the Hunting trip!
Last edited by KirkHerbstreit on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
raidernation
- Official BleacherCoach
- Posts: 358
- Joined: October 4th, 2009, 7:45 pm
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
I thik it has to do with the 10 million dollars that FEDEX offered if bcs conference accepted them 4 Memphis. Don't know how many years that they ill do that but isn't that why they dropped the bowl game sponsorship
Last edited by raidernation on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
Crimson09Crazy
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
CBS had some stuff on it, could be announced sometime this month
IUP and the Ship? no we'll just let them stay on PSU's non conference schedule.
IUP and the Ship? no we'll just let them stay on PSU's non conference schedule.
Last edited by Crimson09Crazy on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
KirkHerbstreit
- Official BleacherCoach
- Posts: 1739
- Joined: October 7th, 2009, 8:45 pm
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
For a team with 5 out of conference games per year playing in a conference where your "tough" games are against Cincinatti, UCONN, and South Florida this is not exacty a who's who of Out of conference opponents Pitt has played the past 8 years.Crimson09Crazy wrote:CBS had some stuff on it, could be announced sometime this month
IUP and the Ship? no we'll just let them stay on PSU's non conference schedule.
Grambling St
Youngstown st x 2
Furman
Eastern Michign
Bowling Green
New Hampshire
Florida international
Buffalo x 2
Ohio x 3
UAB
TOLEDO x 3
Kent State
Ball State
Citadel
Last edited by KirkHerbstreit on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
Crimson09Crazy
Re: Going from the hunted to hunters?
WVU isnt a tough game wow tough crowd. Forgot you play in the hardest league in the land....hahahahahaha but seriously. You really want to compare schedule strength between PSU and Pitt? Thats a road you really wanna go down??
This season
Youngstown State
Kent State
Temple
Finally a tough game with Alabama
Last season
Akron
Syracuse
Temple...again
Eastern Illinois
08
Coastal Carolina golf team
Oregon State pretty respectable for Nittany standards
at Syracuse....worst team in the Big East for 10 straight years now
Temple yet again
07
FIU
Notre Dame wow steppin it up
Buffalo
and wow AT Temple. geeez
06
Akron
Notre Dame in South Bend. breaking you back for a tough schedule ehh?
Youngstown stealing one from us
and you guessed it, Temple
05
USF
CIncy I guess they wished to be a part of a good football league
CMU....not Carnegie Mellon there on the schedule in 2017
04
Akron
BC... uncharacteristically tough game
UCF
03
Temple powerhouse
BC
confernce foe Nebraska
Kent State
02
UCF
Huskers again
La. Tech
UVA
Soo pretty much you bank on the Big Ten being a rock solid league. Michigan is a joke recently. Wisconsin is up and down as with Iowa, everyone else is good once every 5 years. Look your schedule's a joke. Johnstown Tribune had an article once dubbed "Cup Cake U" and for good reason
Lets tally em up.
13 BCS conference teams with UND
Temple alone 6 times
7 other MAC teams
Youngstown twice along with Coastal Carolina and E. Illinois(i remember preople defended this game hahaah)
1 WAC 1 CUSA 1 Sun Belt. good stuff boys
Pitt on the other hand played
Miami, VT, and BC before they bailed after 03, and 04 respectively
Texas A&M twice
Notre Dame 5 times
Nebraska twice
UVA twice
Big Ten powers MSU (twice) Iowa once
At NC State
We play Utah Miami and ND this year.
With future games against
Iowa
Notre Dame
Utah
Va Tech
NC State
Navy
Penn State's future games include
Indiana State
Ohio
Temple
UVA
and one more aginst Alabama
and Rutgers
I mean you can hang your hat on that if it makes you feel better Herb
This season
Youngstown State
Kent State
Temple
Finally a tough game with Alabama
Last season
Akron
Syracuse
Temple...again
Eastern Illinois
08
Coastal Carolina golf team
Oregon State pretty respectable for Nittany standards
at Syracuse....worst team in the Big East for 10 straight years now
Temple yet again
07
FIU
Notre Dame wow steppin it up
Buffalo
and wow AT Temple. geeez
06
Akron
Notre Dame in South Bend. breaking you back for a tough schedule ehh?
Youngstown stealing one from us
and you guessed it, Temple
05
USF
CIncy I guess they wished to be a part of a good football league
CMU....not Carnegie Mellon there on the schedule in 2017
04
Akron
BC... uncharacteristically tough game
UCF
03
Temple powerhouse
BC
confernce foe Nebraska
Kent State
02
UCF
Huskers again
La. Tech
UVA
Soo pretty much you bank on the Big Ten being a rock solid league. Michigan is a joke recently. Wisconsin is up and down as with Iowa, everyone else is good once every 5 years. Look your schedule's a joke. Johnstown Tribune had an article once dubbed "Cup Cake U" and for good reason
Lets tally em up.
13 BCS conference teams with UND
Temple alone 6 times
7 other MAC teams
Youngstown twice along with Coastal Carolina and E. Illinois(i remember preople defended this game hahaah)
1 WAC 1 CUSA 1 Sun Belt. good stuff boys
Pitt on the other hand played
Miami, VT, and BC before they bailed after 03, and 04 respectively
Texas A&M twice
Notre Dame 5 times
Nebraska twice
UVA twice
Big Ten powers MSU (twice) Iowa once
At NC State
We play Utah Miami and ND this year.
With future games against
Iowa
Notre Dame
Utah
Va Tech
NC State
Navy
Penn State's future games include
Indiana State
Ohio
Temple
UVA
and one more aginst Alabama
and Rutgers
I mean you can hang your hat on that if it makes you feel better Herb
Last edited by Crimson09Crazy on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.