Playing on the next level

[Crimson's Ghost]

Rizzo is better than d2. But if not, at the vesy least he will be a D1 wrestler, no doubt.

[WPIAL~Titan]

JHSstandout, you need to clarify: Offers come after a players senior season, but alm,ost exclusively for levels below D1A.

D1AAs and D2s, who have restricted scholarships, usually offer from December-spring. Sure, some D2s, 1AAs, and even 1As have last minute slots on the team and offer guys in the summer, but those are rare and scholarships are rarely offered that late.

The fact is, D1AAs and D2s take the leftovers from D1As. Another trend for D2s (distrubing, IMO) is for schools like a few notable PSAC schools who not only accept, but aggressively recruit, student/athletes (term used loosely) from major D1As who fail out of school and have no business being in college in the first place, who get thrown off teams for disciplinary reasons, or who are downright thugs and criminals.

I totally understand that there are athletes who transfer down from D1As because they were overrecruited in the first place or who aren't patient enough to wait or work for playing time.

However, the practice of D2s taking the problem children who transfer from D1A has, in many cases, caused the phrase "student-athlete" to become quite the misnomer.

In terms of D2 scholarships, an acquaintance of mine was a former D2 football coach and recruiting coordinator (now working at a higher level). He told me that D2s have limited athletic budgets and the amount of scholarships offered for athletics varies. At the time (several years ago), his D2 football program offered 18 full athletic scholarships (not per class, TOTAL for the entire roster) to football players...They had the most scholarships of any team in their D2 conference at the time, and numbers ranged from 9 to 18 full scholarships.

The full scholarships covered tuition, room, and board. The philosophy of their D2 program was to get as many former D1A athletes to transfer down as possible so they could play immediately. NCAA regs allow players to play right away if they transfer down, but you must sit a year if your transfer up or if the transfer is D1 to D1 or D2 to D2. The coaches were always using their D1 contacts to filter players their way who weren't working out.

He told me that at any given time, that 12 to 15 of those 18 full scholarships were full rides given to those players who transferrred in from D1As, while the money from the remaining 3-6 scholarships was divided up among the other 70+ players on the team, which essentially got them textbook vouchers. In essence, relatively few full rides are offered to D2 football players out of HS, as the practice I described above has become so commonplace among D2s.

[JHSstandout]

once again, you are wrong. a lot of d-1 a schools offer in December. mr. Ohio from last year didn't get offered from anyone until December, he then committed to cincinatti in January. most d-1 a schools offer in the summer AND AFTER the season.

[WPIAL~Titan]

JHS, I beg to differ...Most major D1A offers to rising seniors (and even underclassmen who attend camps and impress) occur out of the spring and summer camps to seniors PRIOR TO their senior seasons, not after their senior seasons.

Perhaps you/we are confusing "offers" from "accepted offers" and MAJOR D1 with non-BCS D1. It's the goal of any major D1A program to get target the players they want, offer early, and get the players they want as quickly as possible. Most BCS conference schools are able to do that and the majority of their slots for the upcoming season are filled by commitments that occur in June through the season (November-December). When the season ends and the dust settles, there may be a few spots at those BCS type D1As, but not many scholarships are remaining.

D1AAs and D2s do more offering post-football season because they often get what is left over. I would say that more mid-majors non-BCS schools may have a few more scholarships than BCS major D1s.

[Athens/Cat]

non-BCSers to get offers in spring of senior year: Lewis-Kent, Hawkins-Toledo, Wadley-Toledo. Agreed about BCS usually gettin 'em early.

Also, there hasn't been a player with the physical skills that Rizzo brings from the LHAC since I've been following 13 years ago. The kid has everything you want in a full back in the Big 10 in my opinion. Reminds me of an Anthony Picciotti playing style from CB West in the late 90's.

[Manfred]

How many of these big school recruiters wil be in Sidman Fri. eve. Will they get their eyes opened when they see all these greyhounds slowed to a trot in the mud? It may change their decisions when certain athletes can't live up to their hype.

[thebrigade]

How many of these big school recruiters wil be in Sidman Fri. eve. Will they get their eyes opened when they see all these greyhounds slowed to a trot in the mud? It may change their decisions when certain athletes can't live up to their hype.

maybe these big school recruiters have already seen most of them play outside the mud and know what they can already do, escpecially since most of them play on turf and realize mud is mud.

[sportsfan1000]

How many of these big school recruiters wil be in Sidman Fri. eve. Will they get their eyes opened when they see all these greyhounds slowed to a trot in the mud? It may change their decisions when certain athletes can't live up to their hype.

maybe these big school recruiters have already seen most of them play outside the mud and know what they can already do, escpecially since most of them play on turf and realize mud is mud.

Again, another FH poster, another negative post bashing someone else.

[thebrigade]

How many of these big school recruiters wil be in Sidman Fri. eve. Will they get their eyes opened when they see all these greyhounds slowed to a trot in the mud? It may change their decisions when certain athletes can't live up to their hype.

maybe these big school recruiters have already seen most of them play outside the mud and know what they can already do, escpecially since most of them play on turf and realize mud is mud.

Again, another FH poster, another negative post bashing someone else.

not sure what your stating here

[jack daniel]

How many of these big school recruiters wil be in Sidman Fri. eve. Will they get their eyes opened when they see all these greyhounds slowed to a trot in the mud? It may change their decisions when certain athletes can't live up to their hype.

maybe these big school recruiters have already seen most of them play outside the mud and know what they can already do, escpecially since most of them play on turf and realize mud is mud.

Again, another FH poster, another negative post bashing someone else.

What else would you expect?