Buccos offseason

[S Cube]

Dee Gordon must be in a Hanrahan to LA deal. We already have 6 or 7 guys I'd would rather have in the rotation than Capuano. I would put Capuano in the same class as Karstens who just got non-tendered. Shortstop is the biggest weakness in the organization along with 1B. Gordon could hold down that position for awhile.

[voncap]

If Buccos can get Gordon as part of Hanrahan deal, that would be great.

I still think SPing has to be at the top of the FO's priority list though. Take a look at the pitchers on the 40 man roster. That is one iffy list of pitchers.

[crfball]

Read Porcello for Hanrahan

[Eaglealum]

Buccos agree to 2yrs , 7mil/yr deal with Francisco Liriano this morning, pending a physical....well, this makes a Hammer deal interesting. Will they go for more pitching, or a Dee Gordon type? In the back of my head I'm saying noway, but my heart is saying"Gordon////!!! please, Gordon"... we'll see.

[Crimson's Ghost]

Liriano isn't a bad deal, but he could be Bedard all over again. I think he will fare better, a little more velocity should help.

As of now I see Burnett, Wandy, JMAC, Liriano, and I think we can roll with Locke or somebody until Cole is ready in June. Not a horrible rotation. I'd like to groom McPhearson to be the Hammer's replacement down the line.


Still need a Shortstop.

[Eaglealum]

They will roll with Morton in the 5 spot and Locke in pen barring injuries....
I'd stretch that to 2b/ss because they aren't sure on Walkers back yet. That's what makes a Gordon deal perfect. Makes Barmes a great insurance policy and utility guy...the Phillies just spent 12 mil on a setup guy, if we aren't spending big money on pitching, they better on defense and at plate. Plus Gordon is young, team him with Cutch, Marte , and maybe Walker, and you got a core group, which by the way is strong up the middle...OMG that actually makes sense, it won't happen

[S Cube]

I like it. I can see some comparisons to Bedard, but Liriano is younger and has a lot more upside. Hopefully he is completely over his arm troubles and can focus on hitting spots instead of worrying about getting hurt.

[Crimson's Ghost]

Multiple reports are saying the Pirates are targeting Dee Gordon from LA(24yo SS) and Jose Iglesias of Boston (22yo SS)

[Eaglealum]

saw that...the kid in Boston is a bit more of a risk(buttload of talent) .Gordon is still a pup and has proven he belongs with best years still in front of him...I'd be happy with either, but Gordon may cost more I still want him, but knowing the cheapness at heart Mang. Id be more prone to believe Iglesius

[S Cube]

Iglesius can't hit at all. Over a full season his ceiling is around a 260 avg with 3 or 4 bombs. I don't care how good his glove is, dude has no upside at the plate.