Somerset vs BG Game

[west33]

I was just looking at more team stats! Bgs offense is probably 80% chadbourn and mccolosky. Wow! I couldn't believe that! Maybe even more. And I disagree with the comment on montgomery being better for college. He got totally shut down vs somerset. He isn't as tall either and overall athlete I disagree. Barnes was a stud in all 3 sports but quit baseball to get bigger for football and play aau in hoops. The same for heiple. Those are two excellent baseball players that didn't even go out at somerset. Barnes was the shortstop and pitcher, and heiple was the 2nd baseman and pitcher. Back to football, I also feel somerset played the tougher schedule so far having to go into sidman and bedford to take on two undefeated teams. Also played j-town and richland. And heiple and barnes aren't 80% of somersets offense. They have a number of ways to beat teams. Don't get me wrong, they are all excellent players we mentioned above and I love watching them all play. I just think if you can shut down bgs run game with those two, you could make them pass and beat them. I don't see that shutting 1 phase to somerset hurting that offense because they are equally as good at either the run or the pass and have about 6 players that can get it done! And somersets defense is tough against the run! Just watch bedford game!

[Crimson's Ghost]

Clairton was 100% Tyler Boyd, Titus Howard, and Terrish Webb. In Single A football you only need two maybe 3 guys to be really good, I wouldn't put much stock into that. BG can get away with McCloskey and Chadbourn running around. Somerset's run defense did shut down Bedford's running game, but that rushing offense isn't as good as BG's. Somerset has a very good defense, but Guilfoyle gives you different looks. I also think the younger Chadbourn and Kitt gives them more options, plus Gormley is that reliable tight end.

I really like Updyke of the three juniors being mentioned in this LHAC QB grouping. He's the best pure passer, and he's a great athlete but in a different sense. He has a chance to earn a scholarship in baseball, will be a three year starter in basketball and football. Montgomery is really good too. He's a gamer and a smart player. Good size at 6'1" 205. Barnes is a good athlete and a smart player. Really nice guard in basketball too. All very good.

[west33]

Now when updyke played a good team, he missed open wrs and got sacked because he isn't quick. His numbers were bad vs somerset too! Barnes can pocket pass also. Saw him stand at the 50 yard line do a 3 step drop and throw the ball out of the back of the end zone. That is an arm! Never wound up either. Not cutting on him, great athlete I agree, but the cream of the crop rises to the top in big games! That is what I judge a player on. Not passing for 4 tds vs westmont or bc! How do these qbs play in big games???

[Crimson's Ghost]

Right, but Updyke had to go up against Somerset's front seven and Barnes didn't and that's a real big difference to me. Life's a little tougher when Bryce Mostoller and Logan Eller are standing in the backfield before you even finish your three step drop. I'm not going to penalize Updyke for having to deal with Somerset's defense, and Barnes doesn't have to see anything like his own defense until he gets out of the district.

Both are good players, you put Updyke with Somerset they are still 5-0, you put Barnes with Johnstown and they are still 3-2.

[deepcreek]

Hey rhey are all good, just my unbiased opinion. I like Barnes a great deal, same with Updyke and all the others. All really nice.
I like the Bedford QB release and arm strength. All these kids have the ability to play a sport in college

[west33]

I disagree. J-town has the best wrs in the area. U give a mobile accurate qb those wrs and that is instant success in my eyes. All fast game breakers. Updyke had time and missed the throws that were wide open. Could have been a different outcome early if he hit those 3 tds early in the game! And facing a qb that can't run helps a pass rush sack a qb a lot easier than one that will take off and make a play on the run. He had wrs open all night, he just isn't a scrambler. Plus with barnes at j-town, u would also have a run game which j-town doesn't! Also in my book, I take a scrambling qb that can pocket pass and throw on the move any day! It takes more talent to throw on the run than a straight drop anyways. jmo

[west33]

Plus j-town would also have a top notch safety on defense. Means a lot to have a sure smart tackler back making the calls that can int the ball! And u need a mobile qb to play qb at somerset so it is a mute point I guess!

[Crimson's Ghost]

Well, I disagree. I'm not a Somerset fan or a Johnstown fan, just from an unbiased point of view that's how I see it. With all due respect to Barnes, he simply wouldn't be able to turn around a 37 point game playing the league's best defense. Johnstown may have kept things closer if they still had a healthy Terrell Jones, the Trojans have no rushing game to balance out Updyke's passing. Updyke was able to throw for 200+ yards last year on Somerset, it's just a testament to Somerset's improvement as a team to hold him to just 89 yards this year. It said his rushing numbers were 5 attempts for -41 yards, so he was obviously just seeing constant pressure all night long. Again, playing Somerset's defense isn't easy.

[Crimson's Ghost]

And u need a mobile qb to play qb at somerset so it is a mute point I guess!

In High School Football, you'll likely adapt to the kind of QB you have in the system. If Somerset has a strong armed pocket passer coming up through the ranks, that's who will play QB.

[west33]

To be honest, I would love to have chadbourn, barnes, or donoghoe on my team. These 3 are top notch two way players and they all 3 can play any position and be a stud at it. Great hands, speed, and sure tacklers that get a good read on the ball.