Andrew Hawkins

[Crimson's Ghost]

I already did my friend. I have a hard time believing you can look past where he went to high school. I've been around this website long enough to know where preconceived notions lie.

[El-Moldo]

C'mon Crimson. This has NOTHING to do with BM. I could care less and you know it. You've seen me criticize the Hoya basketball players for the same thing, and I don't know ANYBODY playing basketball at Georgetown. I think it was inappropriate for Hawkins to walk out on the football field to stir the pot about his views. I mean people get pissed when someone like Tim Tebow makes religious statements or writes John 3:16 on his person. Hawkins should just leave well enough alone when he's at work. After he puts in his day's work, then he can do what he wants. But when you have a captive audience like a football stadium, you are off base with things like this.

[say_oww]

C'mon Crimson. This has NOTHING to do with BM. I could care less and you know it. You've seen me criticize the Hoya basketball players for the same thing, and I don't know ANYBODY playing basketball at Georgetown. I think it was inappropriate for Hawkins to walk out on the football field to stir the pot about his views. I mean people get pissed when someone like Tim Tebow makes religious statements or writes John 3:16 on his person. Hawkins should just leave well enough alone when he's at work. After he puts in his day's work, then he can do what he wants. But when you have a captive audience like a football stadium, you are off base with things like this.

I agree with Crimson that Hawkins' response and justification were very thoughtful, poignant, and meaningful given the times in which we live. By contrast, your response seems to be driven by personal views - as evidenced by the numerous negative references to Obama and Democrats in your posts - considering this a sports website. Face it, when passionate, athletes often make statements which would be best suited in other forums. Since we place so much pressure on athletes to succeed, they do not know any other outlet for their viewpoints.

[El-Moldo]

Again, anyone can say anything AFTER the fact. It's called spinning. Wonder how Hawkins would feel if two CLEVELAND police officers would have been shot execution style, possibly over what his views were on the Tamir Rice issue. All it takes is ONE celebrity to edge someone on to commit a crime during a volatile time. Thank you Kobe Bryant, LaBron James, the Georgetown Hoyas for wearing those T-shirts on the job, where impressionable fans can take these messages to heart. Hawkins' shirt did not state "I hope young Tamir Rice receives equal justice under the law". NO. He stated JUSTICE for Tamir. What does THAT mean to most people? THINK before you speak. Think of the ramifications of what you say. If you have to spin it later, you gave the wrong message.

[Manfred]

To the uneducated media driven rabble rousers, when they see the word JUSTICE in situations like this, they really see and say VENGEANCE. At any cost. That makes it OK.

[say_oww]

To the uneducated media driven rabble rousers, when they see the word JUSTICE in situations like this, they really see and say VENGEANCE. At any cost. That makes it OK.

Hmmmmm... so what do the educated masses hear when they see folks who engage in endless criticism of peaceful protesters such as Hawkins, Lebron, Kobe, etc? Anyone???

[OutsideLookingIn]

The feelings Hawkins expressed contribute to the overall rhetoric that engulfs this situation. If he wants to thoughtfully express his opinion, he should do it. If he wants to use his status and his employment as a professional athlete to voice his opinion, he should choose another venue. This is no different than if your average Joe Citizen decided to wear a shirt to work saying "Put your hands down, quit burning down your neighborhood, and find a job". Would he be disciplined or fired? Or at the very least told to remove the shirt? Absolutely. Simply because Hawkins is a minority, speaking about a cause popular with minorities, he gets a pass.

His contribution to the rhetoric also contributes to the overall condition of this country. People hate each other because of beliefs, color of skin, politics, the job they do (as in being a police officer). I don't have all the answers to fix our screwed up culture, but I dang sure know that stoking the fires of hatred and questioning authority simply because it is in vogue, isn't the answer. There is no injustice in the Michael Brown or Garner case. Some people are unhappy with the outcome. Well, that's life. Not everyone is going to be happy. As for the 12 year old shot because he was brandishing a fake gun in a park-someone should have taught him about responsibility and consequences long before then. The police officer didn't go there to kill an unarmed kid. He went there to protect people from a kid who was walking around pointing a gun at people. Demanding justice is a freaking cop out. Demand people raise their kids with some common sense. Then you'd be on to something.

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[Manfred]

[say_oww]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/ ... technology

He is now speaking at MIT. And where are all of you???

[OutsideLookingIn]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/ ... technology

He is now speaking at MIT. And where are all of you???

Association with MIT is now not all it might have been at one time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/us/jo ... h-law.html