Strange Occurrences in District 6-AA

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They listed the ties because they "tried" to get additional state qualifying berths. Fortunately the PIAA guys caught it and said hey wait a minute, their are procedures for breaking these ties and forced them to correct their error. And FYI JGreen, the D6 championships are overseen by District 6, not PIAA officials. The error was caught by PIAA officials when they submitted their state entry list. So, they basically got caught trying to bend the rules.
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HR, on the PIAA website they still have 5 girls from D6 listed in the long jump (3 of them at 16'2). So did they correct problem or are they getting away with it?
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Wait a minute, apparently they are getting away with it. Jolly Green mentions the shot put....In the shot the girl from United is apparently not throwing at states so the next two (the girls tied for 3rd) are both entered which is entirely legal. I am very anxious to ask Mr. Cashman and Mr. Lombardi some questions on Friday about the Long jump situation and why/how D6 got 5 qualifiers. There is the remote chance that all three tied jumpers at 16'2" scratched on all of their other jumps, thus creating a true tie. But chances of that happening are slim and how did it happen in the shot put too??!! D6 got in trouble for this one other time several years back.
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So there are no PIAA sanctioned officals at the District 6 AA meet? Were there any at the District 5 meet?
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Yes.
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We are talking about two different things JG. Yes, there are officials who have passed the test at every district meet...they are from that district. Each district has a meet director and district chairman who oversees the meet. So, the PIAA big-wigs are NOT running the district meets. They give the stipulations, qualifying standards, etc. and let each district run their own meet under their guidelines. (By PIAA officials I thought you meant the Mechanicsburg boys who know exactly how they want qualifications for states to occur and who would have not allowed a tie to occur---Ever see a tie in the Shot or LJ at states?? EVER?????? Dare you to locate one in the history of the PIAA!)

I'm not sure exactly what your point is. Perhaps you could explain to me how there was a three way tie for a crucial third automatic qualifying position in a field event? Not once, but twice! And one is a three-way tie! Please enlighten me. Be sure you check your rulebook, you'll notice that ties are all but impossible in field events. I'll await your investigation and reply as to how this occurred.

I suppose that IF Trevor Young had not cleared 13-3 I should have ignored the rulebook and allowed all three D5 vaulters to appear tied and thus qualify for states????? That is the same situation that happened TWICE in the D6 meet.
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i think anyone that meats the SQS in any event should be offered the chance to go to ship, obviously theyve proven they have what it takes to compete at the state level and we all know that there are district champs and other competitors at states that are no where near SQS, so they way i see it, every district should be allowed to send only the champions and those that meet the SQS
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Anyone that does meet SQT or SQD goes to states.

I'm baffled as much as HR about the D6 girls long jump. I'll hold my judgement until I hear all the facts. But the chances of all three girls with the same distance is very slim.
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Re: Strange Occurrences in District 6-AA

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Hey HR I agree that it is incredibly difficult to get a tie in any field event. What's more, I agree that it is an extremely unusual occurrence, and that an explanation should be forthcoming. Unfortunately, I am in no position to provide it, because I wasn't there and I don't know what happened. Were you?

My point is that you are ASSUMING that something was done wrong without any facts to support your assertion. In your previous post, you said you are looking forward to talking to people on Friday. If you believe that something improper was perpetrated, you should have been on the horn to someone last week, rather than waiting until the day of the competition to raise questions about whether an athlete who has already made the trip can or cannot compete. On the other hand, if it isn't important enough to merit a personal inquiry, why bring it up?
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